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Plug pulled on Rye music festival
THE 'Peoples Festival' music event that was to take centre stage at the Rye next month has been cancelled.
Organiser Marco Iorio said he had no choice but to pull the plug after one of his headlining acts, Finley Quaye, said he would not be performing.
But he has assured the public that anyone who has paid for tickets will be getting a full refund.
Two years ago Mr Iorio organised a similar event in Windsor that was also cancelled at short notice.
Marco Iorio, 34, of High Wycombe, explained he only discovered Finley Quaye couldn't attend on Tuesday evening.
He said: "I just don't know how to resolve it. I have got to make a decision - we have got three weeks.
"If I had a couple of months it wouldn't matter diddly, but it's too late in the day now.
"I'm refunding everybody their money."
Mr Iorio explained that anyone who had bought a ticket could get a refund by returning the ticket to the shop or pub they bought it from. He added that anyone who purchased their ticket online can expect to have their debit or credit card refunded automatically.
The August 23 festival had announced performances from Lee Scratch Perry, the other headlining act, and more bands across two stages.
Mr Iorio said: "I'm just gutted it hasn't happened, and I know the people of Wycombe are really, really looking forward to it."
He added that he hoped to organise another festival next year.
Mr Iorio says he abandoned the festival in Windsor, where he used to live and run a record shop, after being let down by one of the firms he was planning to use.
He said this resulted in him losing his home, his business, and moving to High Wycombe.
11:47am Thursday 31st July 2008
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CommentPosted by: llcherri, Wycombe on 12:04pm Thu 31 Jul 08
Sounds like Mr Iorio couldn't organise a p**s up in a brewery. What with all these cancelled events in the past.
Sounds like Mr Iorio couldn't organise a p**s up in a brewery. What with all these cancelled events in the past.
Posted by: Ivor on 12:08pm Thu 31 Jul 08
At least the children will be able to enjoy their new playground and there will be no danger of people carrying drugs, alcohol and offensive weapons being in our town on that day!
Perhaps the cancellation is for the best....
[bold]Have you read Ivor’s blog today?[/bold] Click on the [bold]“Opinion”[/bold] link on the menu on the left then click on [bold]“Readers Blogs”[/bold].
At least the children will be able to enjoy their new playground and there will be no danger of people carrying drugs, alcohol and offensive weapons being in our town on that day!
Perhaps the cancellation is for the best....
Have you read Ivor’s blog today? Click on the
“Opinion” link on the menu on the left then click on
“Readers Blogs”.
Posted by: Spitfire, High Wycombe on 12:10pm Thu 31 Jul 08
Ivor, there are people carrying drugs, alcohol and offensive weapons in our lovely quaint town every day.
Ivor, there are people carrying drugs, alcohol and offensive weapons in our lovely quaint town every day.
Posted by: here-we-go-again, wycombe on 12:13pm Thu 31 Jul 08
What a shame, although I did never view Finley Quaye as a headline act compared to Lee Scratch Perry. Why not get wycombes very own reggae start Judy Boucher on stage to replace him??
What a shame, although I did never view Finley Quaye as a headline act compared to Lee Scratch Perry. Why not get wycombes very own reggae start Judy Boucher on stage to replace him??
Posted by: llcherri, Wycombe on 12:16pm Thu 31 Jul 08
Especially down the rye, the amount of physical assaults on other youngsters there for there mobile phones is quite high. Lots of drug dealing going on there. And care we forget about that taxi driver that got stabbed down. If ran professionally i.e. somebody who has ran a successfull festival then this would have been a good for people to enjoy themselves in Wycombe again.
Especially down the rye, the amount of physical assaults on other youngsters there for there mobile phones is quite high. Lots of drug dealing going on there. And care we forget about that taxi driver that got stabbed down. If ran professionally i.e. somebody who has ran a successfull festival then this would have been a good for people to enjoy themselves in Wycombe again.
Posted by: Elmo, High Wycombe on 12:24pm Thu 31 Jul 08
That is a shame. Maybe Mr. Iorio could try something a little smaller...
That is a shame. Maybe Mr. Iorio could try something a little smaller...
Posted by: Spitfire, High Wycombe on 12:29pm Thu 31 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Elmo[/bold] wrote:
That is a shame. Maybe Mr. Iorio could try something a little smaller...[/quote] Or perhaps getting confirmation/contrac
t from his headline act before selling tickets.
Elmo wrote:
That is a shame. Maybe Mr. Iorio could try something a little smaller...
Or perhaps getting confirmation/contrac
t from his headline act before selling tickets.
Posted by: llcherri, Wycombe on 12:30pm Thu 31 Jul 08
What like a children’s disco perhaps. These sounds like it haven’t been planned very well. They were selling tickets before permission had been agreed as well as securing the acts.
What like a children’s disco perhaps. These sounds like it haven’t been planned very well. They were selling tickets before permission had been agreed as well as securing the acts.
Posted by: David St, High Wycombe on 12:41pm Thu 31 Jul 08
Why cancel, surely there are lots of local bands who would jump at the chance to perform.
Why cancel, surely there are lots of local bands who would jump at the chance to perform.
Posted by: Kadoogan, Wycombe on 12:42pm Thu 31 Jul 08
Ivor, you silly little man, there are people with drugs, knives etc on the streets every day. With the security that was planned the festival would have probably been one of the safest areas in town that day!
Ivor, you silly little man, there are people with drugs, knives etc on the streets every day. With the security that was planned the festival would have probably been one of the safest areas in town that day!
Posted by: DaveG, Wycombe on 12:45pm Thu 31 Jul 08
Seems like this guy has some history:
http://www.efestival
s.co.uk/forums/index
.php?showtopic=64055
&st=40
It's a shame as I would have liked to have seen a successful gig happen on the Rye.
Seems like this guy has some history:
http://www.efestival
s.co.uk/forums/index
.php?showtopic=64055
&st=40
It's a shame as I would have liked to have seen a successful gig happen on the Rye.
Posted by: erm, ermsville on 12:52pm Thu 31 Jul 08
I'm gutted...I was soooooooooooo looking forward to it ;)
I'm gutted...I was soooooooooooo looking forward to it ;)
Posted by: erm, ermsville on 1:09pm Thu 31 Jul 08
I hope no one would trust him with their hard earned cash for next years 'event', maybe that's why he moves around.
I hope no one would trust him with their hard earned cash for next years 'event', maybe that's why he moves around.
Posted by: Lo_Wycombe, Bowerdean Rd on 1:22pm Thu 31 Jul 08
[quote]He said this resulted in him losing his home, his business, and moving to High Wycombe.[/quote]
This story grates with me on so many levels, I love the way he moves from Windsor to here, as if High Wycombe is the other side of the world. and [bold]then[/bold] makes the same mistake again.
Next stop Hemel Hempstead?
He said this resulted in him losing his home, his business, and moving to High Wycombe.
This story grates with me on so many levels, I love the way he moves from Windsor to here, as if High Wycombe is the other side of the world. and
then makes the same mistake again.
Next stop Hemel Hempstead?
Posted by: Elmo, High Wycombe on 1:29pm Thu 31 Jul 08
I'm guessing that the end of the Paradise Bar, then, also. Hope everyone gets their money back, it doesn't sound like they had much success in Windsor.
I'm guessing that the end of the Paradise Bar, then, also. Hope everyone gets their money back, it doesn't sound like they had much success in Windsor.
Posted by: sr on 2:18pm Thu 31 Jul 08
What a shame - only just confirmed to go ahead with permission, and now cancelled. I wonder whether refunds will be forthcoming?
What a shame - only just confirmed to go ahead with permission, and now cancelled. I wonder whether refunds will be forthcoming?
Posted by: MikeyPikey, High Wycombe on 2:20pm Thu 31 Jul 08
i for one am glad this has been cancelled from the Rye, but it would be nice to have events like this in 'suitable venues' locally.
i for one am glad this has been cancelled from the Rye, but it would be nice to have events like this in 'suitable venues' locally.
Posted by: Catflap, work on 2:21pm Thu 31 Jul 08
as i recall the go ahead for this was only given by WDC at few days ago. how has he been permitted to sell tickets prior to permission being granted?
as i recall the go ahead for this was only given by WDC at few days ago. how has he been permitted to sell tickets prior to permission being granted?
Posted by: SBJones, Wycombe on 2:52pm Thu 31 Jul 08
Mr Iorio sounds like a complete ****, i reckon this is all in his own head and Finley Quaye doesnt even know who this loser is, he probably had an imaginery friend when he was younger.
Mr Iorio sounds like a complete ****, i reckon this is all in his own head and Finley Quaye doesnt even know who this loser is, he probably had an imaginery friend when he was younger.
Posted by: Bogart, Marlow Bottom on 3:07pm Thu 31 Jul 08
I hope Gordon hasn't given him the contract for the Olympics !
I hope Gordon hasn't given him the contract for the Olympics !
Posted by: slacker, Flackwell on 3:09pm Thu 31 Jul 08
I would not be surprised if I heard that Finlay Quaye was never on the list in the first place
I would not be surprised if I heard that Finlay Quaye was never on the list in the first place
Posted by: johnny, high wycombe on 3:10pm Thu 31 Jul 08
The people that provided sponsorship, some in the region of £3500 is there money secure?
The people that provided sponsorship, some in the region of £3500 is there money secure?
Posted by: allyhoop, high wycombe on 7:53pm Thu 31 Jul 08
whoosh, some of you guys are really harsh.
Having worked in the music industry for 25yrs I am all too familiar with the pitfalls of promotion.
Including acts that have been confirmed and booked for events, pulling at the last minute! There is insurance that you can take out to cover such problems, but it is usually cheaper to accept losses as a sunk cost than to make a claim which affects your premium.Even the biggest music promoter live nation never runs at a profit and is struggling to break even. Casting dispersions on the ability to promote cannot be measured by previous cancellations...I have been bankrupt twice from early adventures in this field.Having previously encountered Finley Quaye I know that he has problems overcoming depression and suffers from paranoid delusions and this has affected is ability to perform on occassions. To the point that his commitment with sony records have been adversly affected. Never the less he is a very talented and spirited young man.Along side Lee Scatch perry and the likes of Jah Wobble, this could have been an incredible event. The only criticism I would level is the response from less enlightened individuals who assume black artists and reggae equals people smoking reefers, natty dreds and the violence that 'chavs' celebrate. Its about time Wycombe moved beyond the sterotypes and embraced the ability of music to transcend these socially constructed barriers.
I give a big toast 2 the promoter for securing the likes of the legend Lee 'Scatch' Perry and would gladly offer help and assistance to any further attempts at such events.
Hats off to you my friend, don't give up...maybe next year?
whoosh, some of you guys are really harsh.
Having worked in the music industry for 25yrs I am all too familiar with the pitfalls of promotion.
Including acts that have been confirmed and booked for events, pulling at the last minute! There is insurance that you can take out to cover such problems, but it is usually cheaper to accept losses as a sunk cost than to make a claim which affects your premium.Even the biggest music promoter live nation never runs at a profit and is struggling to break even. Casting dispersions on the ability to promote cannot be measured by previous cancellations...I have been bankrupt twice from early adventures in this field.Having previously encountered Finley Quaye I know that he has problems overcoming depression and suffers from paranoid delusions and this has affected is ability to perform on occassions. To the point that his commitment with sony records have been adversly affected. Never the less he is a very talented and spirited young man.Along side Lee Scatch perry and the likes of Jah Wobble, this could have been an incredible event. The only criticism I would level is the response from less enlightened individuals who assume black artists and reggae equals people smoking reefers, natty dreds and the violence that 'chavs' celebrate. Its about time Wycombe moved beyond the sterotypes and embraced the ability of music to transcend these socially constructed barriers.
I give a big toast 2 the promoter for securing the likes of the legend Lee 'Scatch' Perry and would gladly offer help and assistance to any further attempts at such events.
Hats off to you my friend, don't give up...maybe next year?
Posted by: johnny, high wycombe on 8:14pm Thu 31 Jul 08
alleyhoop, are you familiar with the events in Windsor 2 years ago? there wont be another chance as im sure Mr Iorio will soon be saying goodbye to High Wycombe and in two years time he will be in St Albans screwing the people there. Also people concerns about drugs and violence are all too justified and it would be ignorant to ignore the face that large gatherings of young people especially locally inevitably leads to trouble, Marlow Regatta anyone, The event that had to be cancelled half way through at the swan last week? It was a disaster from day one and im surprised with the amount of people in Windsor claiming Mr Iorio still owes them money why did anybody give him a penny this time, he should be locked up. And BFP I thought you were interviewing him two days ago did you ask about his shady past? did you ask why he was arrested last week? Did you ask him about Windsor? I have a feeling BFP will brush this under the carpet leaving many unanswered questions and a lot of people out of pocket
alleyhoop, are you familiar with the events in Windsor 2 years ago? there wont be another chance as im sure Mr Iorio will soon be saying goodbye to High Wycombe and in two years time he will be in St Albans screwing the people there. Also people concerns about drugs and violence are all too justified and it would be ignorant to ignore the face that large gatherings of young people especially locally inevitably leads to trouble, Marlow Regatta anyone, The event that had to be cancelled half way through at the swan last week? It was a disaster from day one and im surprised with the amount of people in Windsor claiming Mr Iorio still owes them money why did anybody give him a penny this time, he should be locked up. And BFP I thought you were interviewing him two days ago did you ask about his shady past? did you ask why he was arrested last week? Did you ask him about Windsor? I have a feeling BFP will brush this under the carpet leaving many unanswered questions and a lot of people out of pocket
Posted by: erm, ermsville on 8:24pm Thu 31 Jul 08
[quote]maybe next year?[/quote]
or maybe not
[quote]I give a big toast 2 the promoter for securing the likes of the legend Lee 'Scatch' Perry[/quote]
is securing the same as putting his name on a poster and saying he was appearing?
maybe next year?
or maybe not
I give a big toast 2 the promoter for securing the likes of the legend Lee 'Scatch' Perry
is securing the same as putting his name on a poster and saying he was appearing?
Posted by: Icarvs, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil on 8:27pm Thu 31 Jul 08
[quote]Also people concerns about drugs and violence are all too justified and it would be ignorant to ignore the face that large gatherings of young people especially locally inevitably leads to trouble,[/quote]
Johnny got a sure stand here, and...
[quote]im surprised with the amount of people in Windsor claiming Mr Iorio still owes them money why did anybody give him a penny this time[/quote]
Indeed!
Well, the fact is Rye´s event was plugged off for once...
Also people concerns about drugs and violence are all too justified and it would be ignorant to ignore the face that large gatherings of young people especially locally inevitably leads to trouble,
Johnny got a sure stand here, and...
im surprised with the amount of people in Windsor claiming Mr Iorio still owes them money why did anybody give him a penny this time
Indeed!
Well, the fact is Rye´s event was plugged off for once...
Posted by: allyhoop, high wycombe on 8:42pm Thu 31 Jul 08
Johnny,I am not familiar with this event...why was he arrested? Are you familiar with the health & safety criteria that has to be met before a license for such an event is granted?
As for the drugs, violence and young people within large gatherings...spiral of the media? Research by the BPI shows that the biggest consumers of this type of music (cd's & concerts tickets are actually is middle class white males. This is also supported by evidence from various social scientists.
It also shows that peoples fears of large gatherings are usually unfounded, but properly policed events does give reassurance and quickly deals with any problems that arise.The way to look at this issue is by comparison to cities or towns with similiar proportions of people in one space at one time and measure the actual offenses that take place there to such an event. What you will find is that greater proportions of criminality is taking place in towns in general to what occurs in a festival or music concert.The fuel that fires young people up is the assumption that they are up to no good and they react defensively and positionally to those opposed to such entertainment so on it goes back and forth without resolution.
As for the people who give their sponsorship... they would have done so through making an informed choice...the business of music is always risky, with the promoter at the frontline...his costs will be substancial.He has given reassurances of refunds lets watch this spacefor the outcome...before spinning off into a moral panic!
Johnny,I am not familiar with this event...why was he arrested? Are you familiar with the health & safety criteria that has to be met before a license for such an event is granted?
As for the drugs, violence and young people within large gatherings...spiral of the media? Research by the BPI shows that the biggest consumers of this type of music (cd's & concerts tickets are actually is middle class white males. This is also supported by evidence from various social scientists.
It also shows that peoples fears of large gatherings are usually unfounded, but properly policed events does give reassurance and quickly deals with any problems that arise.The way to look at this issue is by comparison to cities or towns with similiar proportions of people in one space at one time and measure the actual offenses that take place there to such an event. What you will find is that greater proportions of criminality is taking place in towns in general to what occurs in a festival or music concert.The fuel that fires young people up is the assumption that they are up to no good and they react defensively and positionally to those opposed to such entertainment so on it goes back and forth without resolution.
As for the people who give their sponsorship... they would have done so through making an informed choice...the business of music is always risky, with the promoter at the frontline...his costs will be substancial.He has given reassurances of refunds lets watch this spacefor the outcome...before spinning off into a moral panic!
Posted by: johnny, high wycombe on 9:13pm Thu 31 Jul 08
when i see performance agrrements to show that finlay and lee scratch perry had agrreed to pay then i will accept this as a music event until then i will consider it a scam. Alleyhoop a quick google search will fill you in on what happened in Windsor. I truely believe the poice should investigate this with a view to prsecuting for fraud. I accept that figures from the BPI however you must also look at a local audience, and the local audience in Wycombe would include a lot of youths who are only there to drink this is indisputable, again look at other local events like i mentioned in my previous post. Im all for an event in wycombe but it needs to be run properly by people with a proven track record for successful events, the fact that it is in the town centre should make this a priority, if you dont have a track record, speak to land owners out of town so that any proplems that arise can be contained without spilling out onto the streets. Before people defend Mr Iorio look at what he has done previously to this.
when i see performance agrrements to show that finlay and lee scratch perry had agrreed to pay then i will accept this as a music event until then i will consider it a scam. Alleyhoop a quick google search will fill you in on what happened in Windsor. I truely believe the poice should investigate this with a view to prsecuting for fraud. I accept that figures from the BPI however you must also look at a local audience, and the local audience in Wycombe would include a lot of youths who are only there to drink this is indisputable, again look at other local events like i mentioned in my previous post. Im all for an event in wycombe but it needs to be run properly by people with a proven track record for successful events, the fact that it is in the town centre should make this a priority, if you dont have a track record, speak to land owners out of town so that any proplems that arise can be contained without spilling out onto the streets. Before people defend Mr Iorio look at what he has done previously to this.
Posted by: Michael on 9:21pm Thu 31 Jul 08
Poster @ 12:45pm well spotted. that history link is a riveting read.
Poster @ 12:45pm well spotted. that history link is a riveting read.
Posted by: allyhoop, high wycombe on 9:24pm Thu 31 Jul 08
Erm you raised a very valid and important point. Lots of gigs are arranged through phonecalls and agreements in principle and events such as these will be marketed as soon as possible usually before recieving written confirmation. You could put this down to bad business practice but it isnt unusual and many companies like Live Nation will follow this form. You can put on adverts and posters to be confirmed. A promoter will try to remove as many risks as possible by pulling the gig if confirmation is not recieved by a deadline date or having an alternative artist in place to cover such an outcome.The promoter is in the firing line from all sides at all times from one party or another, if plans fall short of the management intent.All promoters want to at least break even but more often or not we know that we will make a loss 80% of the time, the 20% profit will cover are more adventurous endeavours.Nobody sets out to rip people off... the greatest thrill for a promoter is getting people high on the experience (not drugs)where they can share an atmosphere that is enjoyable and memorable for all the right reasons.
Erm you raised a very valid and important point. Lots of gigs are arranged through phonecalls and agreements in principle and events such as these will be marketed as soon as possible usually before recieving written confirmation. You could put this down to bad business practice but it isnt unusual and many companies like Live Nation will follow this form. You can put on adverts and posters to be confirmed. A promoter will try to remove as many risks as possible by pulling the gig if confirmation is not recieved by a deadline date or having an alternative artist in place to cover such an outcome.The promoter is in the firing line from all sides at all times from one party or another, if plans fall short of the management intent.All promoters want to at least break even but more often or not we know that we will make a loss 80% of the time, the 20% profit will cover are more adventurous endeavours.Nobody sets out to rip people off... the greatest thrill for a promoter is getting people high on the experience (not drugs)where they can share an atmosphere that is enjoyable and memorable for all the right reasons.
Posted by: allyhoop, high wycombe on 9:55pm Thu 31 Jul 08
The 'local audience' will largely be made up of music aficionados who musicic sub-cultural capital translates to young people as:sad old hippie farts by local youths.
With the rest being tutors & students from Bucks New Uni music and Ent Course and maybe a small percentage of youth groups attending out of curiousity.
The 'local audience' will largely be made up of music aficionados who musicic sub-cultural capital translates to young people as:sad old hippie farts by local youths.
With the rest being tutors & students from Bucks New Uni music and Ent Course and maybe a small percentage of youth groups attending out of curiousity.
Posted by: johnny, high wycombe on 10:19pm Thu 31 Jul 08
at least you mentioned the local youths, who obviously wont miss an excuse to drink in the park especially if the weather was good. You have any experience in events for these youths or events that attract these youths, I have and the last one ended in serious trouble and i for one as someone involved would not like to put any staff etc in a similiar position again
at least you mentioned the local youths, who obviously wont miss an excuse to drink in the park especially if the weather was good. You have any experience in events for these youths or events that attract these youths, I have and the last one ended in serious trouble and i for one as someone involved would not like to put any staff etc in a similiar position again
Posted by: doctor, high wycombe on 10:44pm Thu 31 Jul 08
[quote][bold]johnny[/bold] wrote:
at least you mentioned the local youths, who obviously wont miss an excuse to drink in the park especially if the weather was good. You have any experience in events for these youths or events that attract these youths, I have and the last one ended in serious trouble and i for one as someone involved would not like to put any staff etc in a similiar position again[/quote] dear johnny , how much sponsership i wish someone had given me £3500 that would have been lovely, anyone who gave me money got it back would you like a list so you can check, if you would like to discuss this it be nice to meet, or is it easier just to talk rubbish here, your opinion is appreciated though it will make great reading for the book.
johnny wrote:
at least you mentioned the local youths, who obviously wont miss an excuse to drink in the park especially if the weather was good. You have any experience in events for these youths or events that attract these youths, I have and the last one ended in serious trouble and i for one as someone involved would not like to put any staff etc in a similiar position again
dear johnny , how much sponsership i wish someone had given me £3500 that would have been lovely, anyone who gave me money got it back would you like a list so you can check, if you would like to discuss this it be nice to meet, or is it easier just to talk rubbish here, your opinion is appreciated though it will make great reading for the book.
Posted by: doctor, high wycombe on 10:46pm Thu 31 Jul 08
[quote][bold]llcherri[/bold] wrote:
Sounds like Mr Iorio couldn't organise a p**s up in a brewery. What with all these cancelled events in the past.[/quote] one cancelled event and about 300 that went ahead but like you know anything , i dont organise **** ups you just go to the pub or do you find it difficult to get a group of mates together and go out....
love you x
llcherri wrote:
Sounds like Mr Iorio couldn't organise a p**s up in a brewery. What with all these cancelled events in the past.
one cancelled event and about 300 that went ahead but like you know anything , i dont organise **** ups you just go to the pub or do you find it difficult to get a group of mates together and go out....
love you x
Posted by: doctor, high wycombe on 10:48pm Thu 31 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Spitfire[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Elmo[/bold] wrote:
That is a shame. Maybe Mr. Iorio could try something a little smaller...[/quote] Or perhaps getting confirmation/contrac
t from his headline act before selling tickets.[/quote] i did have confirmation , i had finley booked from june, if you go to www.myspace.com/peop
lesfestival i have put copys up as i thought some people would think i was lying, do you know how sued you would get if you advertised an act without booking them.....anyway check out the paperwork and you can see for yourself, what are you going to say next that i forged it...
love you too x
Spitfire wrote:
Elmo wrote:
That is a shame. Maybe Mr. Iorio could try something a little smaller...
Or perhaps getting confirmation/contrac
t from his headline act before selling tickets.
i did have confirmation , i had finley booked from june, if you go to www.myspace.com/peop
lesfestival i have put copys up as i thought some people would think i was lying, do you know how sued you would get if you advertised an act without booking them.....anyway check out the paperwork and you can see for yourself, what are you going to say next that i forged it...
love you too x
Posted by: allyhoop, high wycombe on 10:49pm Thu 31 Jul 08
Lots of experience in many types of events, including a festival that could hold 10,000 plus.Dealing with artists as far back as UK Subs, Subhumans, Joe Strummer to todays modern contraversies like Dirty Sanchez & Goldie Lookin Chain... Out of all of these (bearing in mind 25yrs) the only problem was a fire that a kid attempted to start after the gig had finished on a college campus. The bad experience is an anomaly, the exception to the rule.
Yet, it is these that people focus and not the thousands that go off without a hitch?
Sorry that you felt your staff had been exposed to a serious risk. I can't comment on your paricular case, but don't rule out entertainment events that may attract a youth based audience, you might be pleasantly suprised by the amount of respect shown if you adopt a inclusive perspective and involve them in the process. The length they will go to retain the space given will be remarkable, that doesn't include knives.
Is there any preventative measures that could have been put in place to avoid this other than social exclusion, because this will just reinforce and breed contempt.
Lots of experience in many types of events, including a festival that could hold 10,000 plus.Dealing with artists as far back as UK Subs, Subhumans, Joe Strummer to todays modern contraversies like Dirty Sanchez & Goldie Lookin Chain... Out of all of these (bearing in mind 25yrs) the only problem was a fire that a kid attempted to start after the gig had finished on a college campus. The bad experience is an anomaly, the exception to the rule.
Yet, it is these that people focus and not the thousands that go off without a hitch?
Sorry that you felt your staff had been exposed to a serious risk. I can't comment on your paricular case, but don't rule out entertainment events that may attract a youth based audience, you might be pleasantly suprised by the amount of respect shown if you adopt a inclusive perspective and involve them in the process. The length they will go to retain the space given will be remarkable, that doesn't include knives.
Is there any preventative measures that could have been put in place to avoid this other than social exclusion, because this will just reinforce and breed contempt.
Posted by: doctor, high wycombe on 10:50pm Thu 31 Jul 08
[quote][bold]erm[/bold] wrote:
I hope no one would trust him with their hard earned cash for next years 'event', maybe that's why he moves around.[/quote] i gave all people back there money so what did i so but lose alot of money your comment dosent make sense, do you follow me about , i lived in windsor and then moved to wycombe to be closer to my mum, cant you do that dosent your mother like you....its okay i love you too x
erm wrote:
I hope no one would trust him with their hard earned cash for next years 'event', maybe that's why he moves around.
i gave all people back there money so what did i so but lose alot of money your comment dosent make sense, do you follow me about , i lived in windsor and then moved to wycombe to be closer to my mum, cant you do that dosent your mother like you....its okay i love you too x
Posted by: doctor, high wycombe on 10:52pm Thu 31 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Lo_Wycombe[/bold] wrote:
[quote]He said this resulted in him losing his home, his business, and moving to High Wycombe.[/quote]
This story grates with me on so many levels, I love the way he moves from Windsor to here, as if High Wycombe is the other side of the world. and [bold]then[/bold] makes the same mistake again.
Next stop Hemel Hempstead?
[/quote] high wycombe is only 30 mins from windsor , do you think its the other side of the world, i think you should go out more....ever been to london or is that far to scary....love you too x
Lo_Wycombe wrote:
He said this resulted in him losing his home, his business, and moving to High Wycombe.
This story grates with me on so many levels, I love the way he moves from Windsor to here, as if High Wycombe is the other side of the world. and then makes the same mistake again.
Next stop Hemel Hempstead?
high wycombe is only 30 mins from windsor , do you think its the other side of the world, i think you should go out more....ever been to london or is that far to scary....love you too x
Posted by: doctor, high wycombe on 10:53pm Thu 31 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Elmo[/bold] wrote:
I'm guessing that the end of the Paradise Bar, then, also. Hope everyone gets their money back, it doesn't sound like they had much success in Windsor.[/quote] whats this go to do with the paradise bar,,,why are you such a bitter person, you have to pick on my mum, silly little man, i think you want to ring your mother and get her to get rid of your evil juice, you seem frustrated.
its ok i still love you x
Elmo wrote:
I'm guessing that the end of the Paradise Bar, then, also. Hope everyone gets their money back, it doesn't sound like they had much success in Windsor.
whats this go to do with the paradise bar,,,why are you such a bitter person, you have to pick on my mum, silly little man, i think you want to ring your mother and get her to get rid of your evil juice, you seem frustrated.
its ok i still love you x
Posted by: doctor, high wycombe on 10:56pm Thu 31 Jul 08
[quote][bold]sr[/bold] wrote:
What a shame - only just confirmed to go ahead with permission, and now cancelled. I wonder whether refunds will be forthcoming?[/quote] refunds through the ticket agencies , so for people that booked on line automatically get a refund on there card, if you brought from shops in wycombe you just need to go back in and they will refund you. The ticket money that is raised from the gig dosent ever come to me till after the gig, in case something happens and it needs to be refunded, so all is safe and you need not worry.any problems email info@transplantmusic
.co.uk
sr wrote:
What a shame - only just confirmed to go ahead with permission, and now cancelled. I wonder whether refunds will be forthcoming?
refunds through the ticket agencies , so for people that booked on line automatically get a refund on there card, if you brought from shops in wycombe you just need to go back in and they will refund you. The ticket money that is raised from the gig dosent ever come to me till after the gig, in case something happens and it needs to be refunded, so all is safe and you need not worry.any problems email info@transplantmusic
.co.uk
Posted by: doctor, high wycombe on 10:57pm Thu 31 Jul 08
[quote][bold]SBJones[/bold] wrote:
Mr Iorio sounds like a complete ****, i reckon this is all in his own head and Finley Quaye doesnt even know who this loser is, he probably had an imaginery friend when he was younger.[/quote] check the my space to see the contracts silly person, its ok though i still love you and your silly ways x
SBJones wrote:
Mr Iorio sounds like a complete ****, i reckon this is all in his own head and Finley Quaye doesnt even know who this loser is, he probably had an imaginery friend when he was younger.
check the my space to see the contracts silly person, its ok though i still love you and your silly ways x
Posted by: doctor, high wycombe on 11:00pm Thu 31 Jul 08
[quote][bold]allyhoop[/bold] wrote:
whoosh, some of you guys are really harsh.
Having worked in the music industry for 25yrs I am all too familiar with the pitfalls of promotion.
Including acts that have been confirmed and booked for events, pulling at the last minute! There is insurance that you can take out to cover such problems, but it is usually cheaper to accept losses as a sunk cost than to make a claim which affects your premium.Even the biggest music promoter live nation never runs at a profit and is struggling to break even. Casting dispersions on the ability to promote cannot be measured by previous cancellations...I have been bankrupt twice from early adventures in this field.Having previously encountered Finley Quaye I know that he has problems overcoming depression and suffers from paranoid delusions and this has affected is ability to perform on occassions. To the point that his commitment with sony records have been adversly affected. Never the less he is a very talented and spirited young man.Along side Lee Scatch perry and the likes of Jah Wobble, this could have been an incredible event. The only criticism I would level is the response from less enlightened individuals who assume black artists and reggae equals people smoking reefers, natty dreds and the violence that 'chavs' celebrate. Its about time Wycombe moved beyond the sterotypes and embraced the ability of music to transcend these socially constructed barriers.
I give a big toast 2 the promoter for securing the likes of the legend Lee 'Scatch' Perry and would gladly offer help and assistance to any further attempts at such events.
Hats off to you my friend, don't give up...maybe next year? [/quote] thanks allyhoop, im not going anywhere and will be doing one next year and if you want to help that be cool.
allyhoop wrote:
whoosh, some of you guys are really harsh.
Having worked in the music industry for 25yrs I am all too familiar with the pitfalls of promotion.
Including acts that have been confirmed and booked for events, pulling at the last minute! There is insurance that you can take out to cover such problems, but it is usually cheaper to accept losses as a sunk cost than to make a claim which affects your premium.Even the biggest music promoter live nation never runs at a profit and is struggling to break even. Casting dispersions on the ability to promote cannot be measured by previous cancellations...I have been bankrupt twice from early adventures in this field.Having previously encountered Finley Quaye I know that he has problems overcoming depression and suffers from paranoid delusions and this has affected is ability to perform on occassions. To the point that his commitment with sony records have been adversly affected. Never the less he is a very talented and spirited young man.Along side Lee Scatch perry and the likes of Jah Wobble, this could have been an incredible event. The only criticism I would level is the response from less enlightened individuals who assume black artists and reggae equals people smoking reefers, natty dreds and the violence that 'chavs' celebrate. Its about time Wycombe moved beyond the sterotypes and embraced the ability of music to transcend these socially constructed barriers.
I give a big toast 2 the promoter for securing the likes of the legend Lee 'Scatch' Perry and would gladly offer help and assistance to any further attempts at such events.
Hats off to you my friend, don't give up...maybe next year?
thanks allyhoop, im not going anywhere and will be doing one next year and if you want to help that be cool.
Posted by: allyhoop, high wycombe on 11:02pm Thu 31 Jul 08
DR, I am in agreement completely it is all about proportion in relation to the other events.
With the biggest respect the best lessons learned are from are greatest mistakes and those being financial, one soon learns quickly to rectify unnessary risk.
Gladly offering continued support.
DR, I am in agreement completely it is all about proportion in relation to the other events.
With the biggest respect the best lessons learned are from are greatest mistakes and those being financial, one soon learns quickly to rectify unnessary risk.
Gladly offering continued support.
Posted by: doctor, high wycombe on 11:06pm Thu 31 Jul 08
[quote][bold]johnny[/bold] wrote:
alleyhoop, are you familiar with the events in Windsor 2 years ago? there wont be another chance as im sure Mr Iorio will soon be saying goodbye to High Wycombe and in two years time he will be in St Albans screwing the people there. Also people concerns about drugs and violence are all too justified and it would be ignorant to ignore the face that large gatherings of young people especially locally inevitably leads to trouble, Marlow Regatta anyone, The event that had to be cancelled half way through at the swan last week? It was a disaster from day one and im surprised with the amount of people in Windsor claiming Mr Iorio still owes them money why did anybody give him a penny this time, he should be locked up. And BFP I thought you were interviewing him two days ago did you ask about his shady past? did you ask why he was arrested last week? Did you ask him about Windsor? I have a feeling BFP will brush this under the carpet leaving many unanswered questions and a lot of people out of pocket[/quote] i was arrested last week, i think your a bit mad johnny, i would love to meet with you and find out where you get your tales from, if your such a big man why dont we go for coffee and discuss your tales, what do you reckon, you think you can talk so well without being behind a computer, we did speak about windsor and i dont know what you mean by shady past, do you like pencils maybe. I think your someone that knows me and dosent like me because i pulled your bird, i bet if we met i would know you and your using this to try and cause trouble, all its doing is making a good read for evreyone, you knock yourself out my friend, things get difficult this is business and life, it will work one day and all this will be forgotten, putting on a gig this size leaves you very open to get done over and it also gives little computer geeks the chance to be angry little boys, please mail me and lets meet , my email is marco@transplantmusi
c.co.uk it be a pleasure ,,,and by the way , love you too xx
johnny wrote:
alleyhoop, are you familiar with the events in Windsor 2 years ago? there wont be another chance as im sure Mr Iorio will soon be saying goodbye to High Wycombe and in two years time he will be in St Albans screwing the people there. Also people concerns about drugs and violence are all too justified and it would be ignorant to ignore the face that large gatherings of young people especially locally inevitably leads to trouble, Marlow Regatta anyone, The event that had to be cancelled half way through at the swan last week? It was a disaster from day one and im surprised with the amount of people in Windsor claiming Mr Iorio still owes them money why did anybody give him a penny this time, he should be locked up. And BFP I thought you were interviewing him two days ago did you ask about his shady past? did you ask why he was arrested last week? Did you ask him about Windsor? I have a feeling BFP will brush this under the carpet leaving many unanswered questions and a lot of people out of pocket
i was arrested last week, i think your a bit mad johnny, i would love to meet with you and find out where you get your tales from, if your such a big man why dont we go for coffee and discuss your tales, what do you reckon, you think you can talk so well without being behind a computer, we did speak about windsor and i dont know what you mean by shady past, do you like pencils maybe. I think your someone that knows me and dosent like me because i pulled your bird, i bet if we met i would know you and your using this to try and cause trouble, all its doing is making a good read for evreyone, you knock yourself out my friend, things get difficult this is business and life, it will work one day and all this will be forgotten, putting on a gig this size leaves you very open to get done over and it also gives little computer geeks the chance to be angry little boys, please mail me and lets meet , my email is marco@transplantmusi
c.co.uk it be a pleasure ,,,and by the way , love you too xx
Posted by: doctor, high wycombe on 11:08pm Thu 31 Jul 08
[quote][bold]erm[/bold] wrote:
[quote]maybe next year?[/quote]
or maybe not
[quote]I give a big toast 2 the promoter for securing the likes of the legend Lee 'Scatch' Perry[/quote]
is securing the same as putting his name on a poster and saying he was appearing?[/quote] erm your just being silly of course he was booked, as i said earlier if i hadnt booked him and used his name that is very illegal, check the my space, still love you x
erm wrote:
maybe next year?
or maybe not
I give a big toast 2 the promoter for securing the likes of the legend Lee 'Scatch' Perry
is securing the same as putting his name on a poster and saying he was appearing?
erm your just being silly of course he was booked, as i said earlier if i hadnt booked him and used his name that is very illegal, check the my space, still love you x
Posted by: doctor, high wycombe on 11:10pm Thu 31 Jul 08
[quote][bold]johnny[/bold] wrote:
when i see performance agrrements to show that finlay and lee scratch perry had agrreed to pay then i will accept this as a music event until then i will consider it a scam. Alleyhoop a quick google search will fill you in on what happened in Windsor. I truely believe the poice should investigate this with a view to prsecuting for fraud. I accept that figures from the BPI however you must also look at a local audience, and the local audience in Wycombe would include a lot of youths who are only there to drink this is indisputable, again look at other local events like i mentioned in my previous post. Im all for an event in wycombe but it needs to be run properly by people with a proven track record for successful events, the fact that it is in the town centre should make this a priority, if you dont have a track record, speak to land owners out of town so that any proplems that arise can be contained without spilling out onto the streets. Before people defend Mr Iorio look at what he has done previously to this.[/quote] you again you are angry , you need to get rid of evil juice
johnny wrote:
when i see performance agrrements to show that finlay and lee scratch perry had agrreed to pay then i will accept this as a music event until then i will consider it a scam. Alleyhoop a quick google search will fill you in on what happened in Windsor. I truely believe the poice should investigate this with a view to prsecuting for fraud. I accept that figures from the BPI however you must also look at a local audience, and the local audience in Wycombe would include a lot of youths who are only there to drink this is indisputable, again look at other local events like i mentioned in my previous post. Im all for an event in wycombe but it needs to be run properly by people with a proven track record for successful events, the fact that it is in the town centre should make this a priority, if you dont have a track record, speak to land owners out of town so that any proplems that arise can be contained without spilling out onto the streets. Before people defend Mr Iorio look at what he has done previously to this.
you again you are angry , you need to get rid of evil juice
Posted by: doctor, high wycombe on 11:13pm Thu 31 Jul 08
[quote][bold]johnny[/bold] wrote:
at least you mentioned the local youths, who obviously wont miss an excuse to drink in the park especially if the weather was good. You have any experience in events for these youths or events that attract these youths, I have and the last one ended in serious trouble and i for one as someone involved would not like to put any staff etc in a similiar position again[/quote] under age kids dont get served , alcohol was not allowed to brought into the park to prevent this , its quite easy johnny, now go and get rid of that evil juice and mail me so we can meet and we can see who you really are, its like scooby doo we get to pull of your mask and see that you really are the funfair keeper !!!
stil love you x
johnny wrote:
at least you mentioned the local youths, who obviously wont miss an excuse to drink in the park especially if the weather was good. You have any experience in events for these youths or events that attract these youths, I have and the last one ended in serious trouble and i for one as someone involved would not like to put any staff etc in a similiar position again
under age kids dont get served , alcohol was not allowed to brought into the park to prevent this , its quite easy johnny, now go and get rid of that evil juice and mail me so we can meet and we can see who you really are, its like scooby doo we get to pull of your mask and see that you really are the funfair keeper !!!
stil love you x
Posted by: Spitfire, High Wycombe on 11:26pm Thu 31 Jul 08
[quote][bold]doctor[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Spitfire[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Elmo[/bold] wrote:
That is a shame. Maybe Mr. Iorio could try something a little smaller...[/quote] Or perhaps getting confirmation/contrac
t from his headline act before selling tickets.[/quote] i did have confirmation , i had finley booked from june, if you go to www.myspace.com/peop
lesfestival i have put copys up as i thought some people would think i was lying, do you know how sued you would get if you advertised an act without booking them.....anyway check out the paperwork and you can see for yourself, what are you going to say next that i forged it...
love you too x [/quote] So presumably Mr Quaye is on the nasty end of a firm letter from your lawyers.
I honestly look forward to you organising a successful concert on the Rye. If you look elsewhere on this site you'll see I was supportive of your venture.
doctor wrote:
Spitfire wrote:
Elmo wrote:
That is a shame. Maybe Mr. Iorio could try something a little smaller...
Or perhaps getting confirmation/contrac
t from his headline act before selling tickets.
i did have confirmation , i had finley booked from june, if you go to www.myspace.com/peop
lesfestival i have put copys up as i thought some people would think i was lying, do you know how sued you would get if you advertised an act without booking them.....anyway check out the paperwork and you can see for yourself, what are you going to say next that i forged it...
love you too x
So presumably Mr Quaye is on the nasty end of a firm letter from your lawyers.
I honestly look forward to you organising a successful concert on the Rye. If you look elsewhere on this site you'll see I was supportive of your venture.
Posted by: doctor, high wycombe on 12:01am Fri 1 Aug 08
hello to all,
thought i had better write something before the mad people think they can be so rude about something i tried to do, contracts were booked , license was past, stalls were booked , security was booked, the fence, the stage, the lights, sound,bar,tents, porta cabins,loos, staff, stage hands etc etc etc, it was all booked and deposits paid, me losing one of the headline acts at this stage was a disaster, he had his money , he had deposits, like evereything else i had booked, i cant post this all up as its a massive folder of work, if anyone would like to see all that was done and check that im not lying i am more than happy to meet and show you. I pulled it because it wasent right and it needs to be right, there was only half a gig without him and yes lee scratch perry would have been a great headliner , we had to sell 3,000 tickets to come out of this ok, without finley i dodnt know if this would now happen, if id risked it , it really would have been disaster if i couldnt pay for it all if we didnt sell enough tickets, advertising was out, big issue, nme, radio, etc etc and it was too late to change it, i thought it was best to wait, the only one that lost was me, i lost my money. People talking about sponsors, what sponsors, the nags head gave me some money as we were having an aftershow there, the goblin the same, monster energy gave me the bar and some tents, but actual cash not a bean, so i dont know where all this talk of me ripping people off and not returning money has come from. Windsor didnt happen as a week before the gig, the firm i had paid to do security never came back, they had been paid, i stress been paid £14,000.A week before the gig and no security meant that the license wasent valid, the levellers, alabama 3 they had all had there money, one man didnt get his ticket money because he was as a sad little man and i wouldnt be surprised if someone here is him but no bother. i lost my house and had to give up my shop to sort that one out but im still the bad man. i love music and have put on loads and loads of gigs but people only want to talk about the one that went wrong, i know its interesting and we all like a gossip, my mistake was not talking about the last one , i was so shocked and had lots to do that i hid away from the papers , all that did was mean people could write what they want and they did. People on here attacking my mother thats disgraceful do you pick on kids as well. Come september the rosters come out for next year and im going to do it again and hopefully i wont fall at the last hurdle but if i do i ll refund the money and try again, you see its not about the money its about the gig, its about a field full of people having a nice day, its not about youths and knives there is more to life than that , not all youths are bad , its just the minority like with all bad people in life. Do a gig dosent mean kids getting drunk, that is so narrow minded you have to be a politician. The line up was picked because it would appeal to 30 upwards we offerd free tickets to kids so familys could afford to enjoy the day, familys are nice people and bring nice vibes, its quite easy, we gave free tickets to nurses this was all done to create a nice atmosphere , music on a field dosent bring trouble, people with silly views bring trouble, you are the bad people, you know if people were more open minded and not so angry there wouldent be so much trouble. This is a festival for the people, and the ones that dont like it are the minority, the people that dont like me are the minority , so it would be bad for me not to do this because of them, im sorry but you wont stop me i havent done anything wrong and ill die trying. One last thing i moved to wycombe because after the jast event in 2007 i think it was october of that year i caught up pneumonia , i was in hospital for two months , it ended with me having 20% of my heart left and i have to go to hospital every month to have it checked as i have been told i have to have a heart transplant, i am booked in again on the 13th of this month and to all who are going to say rubbish i will be more than happy to show you all my appointments and stuff, this was why i gave free tickets to nurses as they looked after me and they were great , this was also why i moved to wycombe because i wanted to be near my mum, i think we all would if your doc told you you were dying. i have waited a year and a half for the operation but still no good. The doc told me i could have a project as i was going mad with boredom so i decided to do the festival , i dont think she meant such a big project but in between working i slept alot, thats what happens when your heart dosent work its makes you tired very easily, i take about 8 tablets a day, im not allowed to drink and i had to give up my past. Music is the best thing in the world and if theres no music then there is no point, so earlier when i said ill die trying this is what i meant, i did book all the stuff i said and the license was passed i have proof of all of this and as i also said earlier im happy for people to come and see it but they wont its easier to just be horrible and try and shatter peoples dreams, WONT HAPPEN you cant do that to me, i will put on a festival in the town and it will happen, there is more positive than negative and a couple of silly people wont chase me away. Anyway it is a great shame this didnt happen and im sorry i let people down but its just postponed and it will happen. when it does buy your tickets on the day if you like i dont mind i dont see that money till after the event anyway. Im sure the little people will have something to say so i will be back tomorrow to answer all the questions. To the believers i thankyou and to the little willy people i still love you, especially you johnny i think i know who you are. you little bottler x
hello to all,
thought i had better write something before the mad people think they can be so rude about something i tried to do, contracts were booked , license was past, stalls were booked , security was booked, the fence, the stage, the lights, sound,bar,tents, porta cabins,loos, staff, stage hands etc etc etc, it was all booked and deposits paid, me losing one of the headline acts at this stage was a disaster, he had his money , he had deposits, like evereything else i had booked, i cant post this all up as its a massive folder of work, if anyone would like to see all that was done and check that im not lying i am more than happy to meet and show you. I pulled it because it wasent right and it needs to be right, there was only half a gig without him and yes lee scratch perry would have been a great headliner , we had to sell 3,000 tickets to come out of this ok, without finley i dodnt know if this would now happen, if id risked it , it really would have been disaster if i couldnt pay for it all if we didnt sell enough tickets, advertising was out, big issue, nme, radio, etc etc and it was too late to change it, i thought it was best to wait, the only one that lost was me, i lost my money. People talking about sponsors, what sponsors, the nags head gave me some money as we were having an aftershow there, the goblin the same, monster energy gave me the bar and some tents, but actual cash not a bean, so i dont know where all this talk of me ripping people off and not returning money has come from. Windsor didnt happen as a week before the gig, the firm i had paid to do security never came back, they had been paid, i stress been paid £14,000.A week before the gig and no security meant that the license wasent valid, the levellers, alabama 3 they had all had there money, one man didnt get his ticket money because he was as a sad little man and i wouldnt be surprised if someone here is him but no bother. i lost my house and had to give up my shop to sort that one out but im still the bad man. i love music and have put on loads and loads of gigs but people only want to talk about the one that went wrong, i know its interesting and we all like a gossip, my mistake was not talking about the last one , i was so shocked and had lots to do that i hid away from the papers , all that did was mean people could write what they want and they did. People on here attacking my mother thats disgraceful do you pick on kids as well. Come september the rosters come out for next year and im going to do it again and hopefully i wont fall at the last hurdle but if i do i ll refund the money and try again, you see its not about the money its about the gig, its about a field full of people having a nice day, its not about youths and knives there is more to life than that , not all youths are bad , its just the minority like with all bad people in life. Do a gig dosent mean kids getting drunk, that is so narrow minded you have to be a politician. The line up was picked because it would appeal to 30 upwards we offerd free tickets to kids so familys could afford to enjoy the day, familys are nice people and bring nice vibes, its quite easy, we gave free tickets to nurses this was all done to create a nice atmosphere , music on a field dosent bring trouble, people with silly views bring trouble, you are the bad people, you know if people were more open minded and not so angry there wouldent be so much trouble. This is a festival for the people, and the ones that dont like it are the minority, the people that dont like me are the minority , so it would be bad for me not to do this because of them, im sorry but you wont stop me i havent done anything wrong and ill die trying. One last thing i moved to wycombe because after the jast event in 2007 i think it was october of that year i caught up pneumonia , i was in hospital for two months , it ended with me having 20% of my heart left and i have to go to hospital every month to have it checked as i have been told i have to have a heart transplant, i am booked in again on the 13th of this month and to all who are going to say rubbish i will be more than happy to show you all my appointments and stuff, this was why i gave free tickets to nurses as they looked after me and they were great , this was also why i moved to wycombe because i wanted to be near my mum, i think we all would if your doc told you you were dying. i have waited a year and a half for the operation but still no good. The doc told me i could have a project as i was going mad with boredom so i decided to do the festival , i dont think she meant such a big project but in between working i slept alot, thats what happens when your heart dosent work its makes you tired very easily, i take about 8 tablets a day, im not allowed to drink and i had to give up my past. Music is the best thing in the world and if theres no music then there is no point, so earlier when i said ill die trying this is what i meant, i did book all the stuff i said and the license was passed i have proof of all of this and as i also said earlier im happy for people to come and see it but they wont its easier to just be horrible and try and shatter peoples dreams, WONT HAPPEN you cant do that to me, i will put on a festival in the town and it will happen, there is more positive than negative and a couple of silly people wont chase me away. Anyway it is a great shame this didnt happen and im sorry i let people down but its just postponed and it will happen. when it does buy your tickets on the day if you like i dont mind i dont see that money till after the event anyway. Im sure the little people will have something to say so i will be back tomorrow to answer all the questions. To the believers i thankyou and to the little willy people i still love you, especially you johnny i think i know who you are. you little bottler x
Posted by: doctor, high wycombe on 12:13am Fri 1 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Spitfire[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]doctor[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Spitfire[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Elmo[/bold] wrote:
That is a shame. Maybe Mr. Iorio could try something a little smaller...[/quote] Or perhaps getting confirmation/contrac
t from his headline act before selling tickets.[/quote] i did have confirmation , i had finley booked from june, if you go to www.myspace.com/peop
lesfestival i have put copys up as i thought some people would think i was lying, do you know how sued you would get if you advertised an act without booking them.....anyway check out the paperwork and you can see for yourself, what are you going to say next that i forged it...
love you too x [/quote] So presumably Mr Quaye is on the nasty end of a firm letter from your lawyers.
I honestly look forward to you organising a successful concert on the Rye. If you look elsewhere on this site you'll see I was supportive of your venture.[/quote] lawyers cost money and i am more of a person to move forward than spend months arguing and spending money on lawyers and standing still, when your angry you cant think and there is enough angry people, life is a lesson and we are constantly learning, im sorry if you thought me rude and thankyou for supporting the festival, i was being attacked by all sides when i checked this forum but if i was wrong about you im sorry, the gig will happen, high wycombe has a nice vibe about it, when we planned this one in windsor we had 60 objections i had to go to a meeting at the town hall as there was so many people they had to move the place for the hearing, in wycombe we had one objection.....only one, high wycombe is a great town with agreat future and is always getting better, the council here are very strict but also very fair. I will do a festival here as the rye is magical, have you seen the trees in the sunlight they look lovely, the rye is more than just a park where kids go and get drunk, we were young once didnt we go and get drunk. I think we all get so caught up in being adults we forget that we were young and did the same things. Newspapers make things worse than they are, its there job they have to sell papers, of course knife crime is bad , maybe if they stopped writing about it, it wouldnt make the stupid people think it was cool, anyway i am deturing from what i was saying, thanks for your comments and if i read you wrong im sorry,
regards marco
Spitfire wrote:
doctor wrote:
Spitfire wrote:
Elmo wrote:
That is a shame. Maybe Mr. Iorio could try something a little smaller...
Or perhaps getting confirmation/contrac
t from his headline act before selling tickets.
i did have confirmation , i had finley booked from june, if you go to www.myspace.com/peop
lesfestival i have put copys up as i thought some people would think i was lying, do you know how sued you would get if you advertised an act without booking them.....anyway check out the paperwork and you can see for yourself, what are you going to say next that i forged it...
love you too x
So presumably Mr Quaye is on the nasty end of a firm letter from your lawyers.
I honestly look forward to you organising a successful concert on the Rye. If you look elsewhere on this site you'll see I was supportive of your venture.
lawyers cost money and i am more of a person to move forward than spend months arguing and spending money on lawyers and standing still, when your angry you cant think and there is enough angry people, life is a lesson and we are constantly learning, im sorry if you thought me rude and thankyou for supporting the festival, i was being attacked by all sides when i checked this forum but if i was wrong about you im sorry, the gig will happen, high wycombe has a nice vibe about it, when we planned this one in windsor we had 60 objections i had to go to a meeting at the town hall as there was so many people they had to move the place for the hearing, in wycombe we had one objection.....only one, high wycombe is a great town with agreat future and is always getting better, the council here are very strict but also very fair. I will do a festival here as the rye is magical, have you seen the trees in the sunlight they look lovely, the rye is more than just a park where kids go and get drunk, we were young once didnt we go and get drunk. I think we all get so caught up in being adults we forget that we were young and did the same things. Newspapers make things worse than they are, its there job they have to sell papers, of course knife crime is bad , maybe if they stopped writing about it, it wouldnt make the stupid people think it was cool, anyway i am deturing from what i was saying, thanks for your comments and if i read you wrong im sorry,
regards marco
Posted by: yabbadabbadoo, wooburn green on 8:34am Fri 1 Aug 08
doctor-next time you decide to write an essay on here (or a small novel) try PARAGRAPHING
doctor-next time you decide to write an essay on here (or a small novel) try PARAGRAPHING
Posted by: Elmo, High Wycombe on 8:40am Fri 1 Aug 08
Marco, What's not to love.
As for the rest, you mucked up, deal with it. Don't come mithering about the nasty boys calling you names, you mucked it up. Unfortunately you have a history of mucking it up and there is evidence of people very unhappy with you easily available through the internet.
We draw the only obvious conclusion.
I hope the Nags and the Goblin don't come out of this short.
Marco, What's not to love.
As for the rest, you mucked up, deal with it. Don't come mithering about the nasty boys calling you names, you mucked it up. Unfortunately you have a history of mucking it up and there is evidence of people very unhappy with you easily available through the internet.
We draw the only obvious conclusion.
I hope the Nags and the Goblin don't come out of this short.
Posted by: MikeyPikey, High Wycombe on 9:41am Fri 1 Aug 08
I think it's very admirable of the doctor to come on here and expain the situation, and answer questions. I was opposed to the event but only because of it being on the rye, as i didnt feel this was a suitable venue, but i would have gone along to the event anyway for sure! was looking forward to Finley. Roll on next year - i want to see it happen (preferably in Hughenden)
I think it's very admirable of the doctor to come on here and expain the situation, and answer questions. I was opposed to the event but only because of it being on the rye, as i didnt feel this was a suitable venue, but i would have gone along to the event anyway for sure! was looking forward to Finley. Roll on next year - i want to see it happen (preferably in Hughenden)
Posted by: doctor, high wycombe on 12:43pm Fri 1 Aug 08
[quote][bold]MikeyPikey[/bold] wrote:
I think it's very admirable of the doctor to come on here and expain the situation, and answer questions. I was opposed to the event but only because of it being on the rye, as i didnt feel this was a suitable venue, but i would have gone along to the event anyway for sure! was looking forward to Finley. Roll on next year - i want to see it happen (preferably in Hughenden)[/quote] thankyou mikey i will have a look at hughendon, they also did a gig in west wycombe at the grounds of the stately home, they did a covers band gig, they will only do one music event a year there, so if i get in early enough it could be possible, there are lots of fields in the areas of high wycombe and it would be easier doing it sligtly outside of town, parking and congestion would be resolved,
thanks
MikeyPikey wrote:
I think it's very admirable of the doctor to come on here and expain the situation, and answer questions. I was opposed to the event but only because of it being on the rye, as i didnt feel this was a suitable venue, but i would have gone along to the event anyway for sure! was looking forward to Finley. Roll on next year - i want to see it happen (preferably in Hughenden)
thankyou mikey i will have a look at hughendon, they also did a gig in west wycombe at the grounds of the stately home, they did a covers band gig, they will only do one music event a year there, so if i get in early enough it could be possible, there are lots of fields in the areas of high wycombe and it would be easier doing it sligtly outside of town, parking and congestion would be resolved,
thanks
Posted by: doctor, high wycombe on 12:44pm Fri 1 Aug 08
[quote][bold]Elmo[/bold] wrote:
Marco, What's not to love.
As for the rest, you mucked up, deal with it. Don't come mithering about the nasty boys calling you names, you mucked it up. Unfortunately you have a history of mucking it up and there is evidence of people very unhappy with you easily available through the internet.
We draw the only obvious conclusion.
I hope the Nags and the Goblin don't come out of this short.[/quote] why would the pubs why dont you go ask tom at the nags we are allready doing stuff together so im afraid your still silly....
but i still love you x
Elmo wrote:
Marco, What's not to love.
As for the rest, you mucked up, deal with it. Don't come mithering about the nasty boys calling you names, you mucked it up. Unfortunately you have a history of mucking it up and there is evidence of people very unhappy with you easily available through the internet.
We draw the only obvious conclusion.
I hope the Nags and the Goblin don't come out of this short.
why would the pubs why dont you go ask tom at the nags we are allready doing stuff together so im afraid your still silly....
but i still love you x
Posted by: littlemiss, Wycombe on 3:32pm Fri 1 Aug 08
I have to say I think it's an absolute shame that this gig isn't going ahead. So many people were so excited about it the disappointment is running very deep. Finally we had something cool happening in Wycombe, music related, taking our town back to it's once musical roots.
Who the hell should complain about that?
I do hope that there is a chance we get a music festival and perhaps we could have some contingent bands to step in if main acts cancel? Maybe chuck in some local talent alongside big names, why not, make it something about OUR town? It would sell, I can reel off a few homegrown bands from different genres too. I think it would be good for Wycombe's community.
Let's face it, in this day and age we all moan about everything, be it politics, rising fuel costs, taxes, crime, the weather, why can't we have something fun and for everyone? I'm sick of hearing about the drugs and the knives in Wycombe - this place has been like this for years, it's been a town that has been notorious for class A usage for as long as my parents can remember.
Some kids are going out causing trouble, wow, big bloody shocker. The problem with life today is too many people sit on their arses complaining and not doing anything. We have the world at the mercy of our keyboards so why get out there and live life when you can blog about it? COME ON! Kids who aren't at home playing their games consoles can sometimes be found out on the streets bored and looking for stuff to do. Not all cause trouble, don't generalise. Adults cause trouble too! We have got so politically correct you can't even sing certain nursery rhymes without being racist, you can't punish kids without them threatening you with child line because you took their DS away, you can't do jack.
Stop moaning and come up with a solution!! If you really don't like life here, and you really are that sad that you see this festival as an opportunity for a community day to be spoilt just because some kids might have turned up then sod off somewhere else where it's all rosey, the grass is greener and you can walk around saying "lovely"! When you can't find it, don't complain! Although maybe you could take Ivor on your quest with you...
Getting back to the festival, I couldn't really care less if it was at the Rye or Hughenden, or in someone's back garden. It would just be cool to have something to look forward to. **** happens, life goes on. I grew up around bands and music and I'm aware that even well established music promoters suffer setbacks and gigs don't always happen. Let's put the virtual knives away kids, come up with something constructive if you are going to whinge and **** on. Lets all hope for a bright and fun filled day next year.
Those of us that wanted the festival are disappointed, agreed. If a replacement act can't be found then it's not going to happen this year is it? If it can happen in the future, and is a success, then just maybe it will become a regular yearly thing, and that would be something to look forward to.
Peace out people...
I have to say I think it's an absolute shame that this gig isn't going ahead. So many people were so excited about it the disappointment is running very deep. Finally we had something cool happening in Wycombe, music related, taking our town back to it's once musical roots.
Who the hell should complain about that?
I do hope that there is a chance we get a music festival and perhaps we could have some contingent bands to step in if main acts cancel? Maybe chuck in some local talent alongside big names, why not, make it something about OUR town? It would sell, I can reel off a few homegrown bands from different genres too. I think it would be good for Wycombe's community.
Let's face it, in this day and age we all moan about everything, be it politics, rising fuel costs, taxes, crime, the weather, why can't we have something fun and for everyone? I'm sick of hearing about the drugs and the knives in Wycombe - this place has been like this for years, it's been a town that has been notorious for class A usage for as long as my parents can remember.
Some kids are going out causing trouble, wow, big bloody shocker. The problem with life today is too many people sit on their arses complaining and not doing anything. We have the world at the mercy of our keyboards so why get out there and live life when you can blog about it? COME ON! Kids who aren't at home playing their games consoles can sometimes be found out on the streets bored and looking for stuff to do. Not all cause trouble, don't generalise. Adults cause trouble too! We have got so politically correct you can't even sing certain nursery rhymes without being racist, you can't punish kids without them threatening you with child line because you took their DS away, you can't do jack.
Stop moaning and come up with a solution!! If you really don't like life here, and you really are that sad that you see this festival as an opportunity for a community day to be spoilt just because some kids might have turned up then sod off somewhere else where it's all rosey, the grass is greener and you can walk around saying "lovely"! When you can't find it, don't complain! Although maybe you could take Ivor on your quest with you...
Getting back to the festival, I couldn't really care less if it was at the Rye or Hughenden, or in someone's back garden. It would just be cool to have something to look forward to. **** happens, life goes on. I grew up around bands and music and I'm aware that even well established music promoters suffer setbacks and gigs don't always happen. Let's put the virtual knives away kids, come up with something constructive if you are going to whinge and **** on. Lets all hope for a bright and fun filled day next year.
Those of us that wanted the festival are disappointed, agreed. If a replacement act can't be found then it's not going to happen this year is it? If it can happen in the future, and is a success, then just maybe it will become a regular yearly thing, and that would be something to look forward to.
Peace out people...
Posted by: Moon, High Wycombe on 4:53pm Fri 1 Aug 08
All I have to say is [bold]WELL DONE MARCO[/bold] !!
You'd put SO much hard work into this and were only a whisper away from hosting the biggest music event High Wycombe has ever seen.
Some people are like vultures...they flock to feast on the carnage and offer no valid point. Just another excuse for them to tapidy tap tap on the keyboards to try and make themselves look like big men in this virtual world to compensate for there pathetic excuses for lives out in the REAL world.
Ignore them...we all know you did a good job.
It didn't work out this year but we'll just be more prepared next year!
Sorry for the harsh rant bit but some people on here really annoy me...
All I have to say is
WELL DONE MARCO !!
You'd put SO much hard work into this and were only a whisper away from hosting the biggest music event High Wycombe has ever seen.
Some people are like vultures...they flock to feast on the carnage and offer no valid point. Just another excuse for them to tapidy tap tap on the keyboards to try and make themselves look like big men in this virtual world to compensate for there pathetic excuses for lives out in the REAL world.
Ignore them...we all know you did a good job.
It didn't work out this year but we'll just be more prepared next year!
Sorry for the harsh rant bit but some people on here really annoy me...
Posted by: ronnie on 5:18pm Fri 1 Aug 08
[quote]It didn't work out this year but we'll just be more prepared next year[/quote] - he hasn't got the greatest track record has he? Not sure why you think it will work next year lol...
It didn't work out this year but we'll just be more prepared next year
- he hasn't got the greatest track record has he? Not sure why you think it will work next year lol...
Posted by: Moon, High Wycombe on 5:54pm Fri 1 Aug 08
[quote][bold]ronnie[/bold] wrote:
[quote]It didn't work out this year but we'll just be more prepared next year[/quote] - he hasn't got the greatest track record has he? Not sure why you think it will work next year lol...[/quote] Third time lucky!
ronnie wrote:
It didn't work out this year but we'll just be more prepared next year
- he hasn't got the greatest track record has he? Not sure why you think it will work next year lol...
Third time lucky!
Posted by: Elmo, High Wycombe on 8:39am Mon 4 Aug 08
[quote][bold]doctor[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Elmo[/bold] wrote: Marco, What's not to love. As for the rest, you mucked up, deal with it. Don't come mithering about the nasty boys calling you names, you mucked it up. Unfortunately you have a history of mucking it up and there is evidence of people very unhappy with you easily available through the internet. We draw the only obvious conclusion. I hope the Nags and the Goblin don't come out of this short.[/quote] why would the pubs why dont you go ask tom at the nags we are allready doing stuff together so im afraid your still silly.... but i still love you x [/quote] I will, next time I'm in there.
So, from your website I notice part of the reason you give for cancellation was low ticket sales. Looking around the area was there any other music event going on that weekend that may account for this.
Someone here has been rather silly, you claim it's me, I contend the silly one is the person who trys to organise a festival in Wycombe on the same weekend as Reading Festival.
Any idea how many of us would have come to yours if they didn't already have tickets for Reading.
Just a thought.
doctor wrote:
Elmo wrote: Marco, What's not to love. As for the rest, you mucked up, deal with it. Don't come mithering about the nasty boys calling you names, you mucked it up. Unfortunately you have a history of mucking it up and there is evidence of people very unhappy with you easily available through the internet. We draw the only obvious conclusion. I hope the Nags and the Goblin don't come out of this short.
why would the pubs why dont you go ask tom at the nags we are allready doing stuff together so im afraid your still silly.... but i still love you x <