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Teenager given ASBO for "unacceptable" behaviour
A YOUTH has been made the subject of an Anti-Social Behaviour Order for conduct described as "extensive, appalling and unacceptable" by a court.
Anthony Crawford, 17, has been warned he will "inevitably" be sent to prison if he breaches the terms of his ASBO within the next two years.
The Bourne End teenager was served the ASBO yesterday by Wycombe District Council and Thames Valley Police.
The chairman of the bench at Wycombe Magistrates Court said of Crawford's behaviour: "It was committed over a long period and you have shown total disregard, not only to yourself and your family, but to neighbours and to others in the community, and in particular towards the police."
He added: "That behaviour will have caused harrassment, alarm and stress.
"This behaviour continued after several very significant interventions by the authorities. You simply have not responded to anything else."
A photograph of Crawford has been released because he was "approaching the age of maturity", and the picture's publication was "necessary and proportionate" to his behaviour, said the chairman of the bench.
Under the terms of his ASBO, Crawford is prohibited from driving or riding any motorised vehicle in any public place without the permission of the owner, without a licence or without legal documentation for the next two years.
He is also barred from being abusive, insulting or threatening and from using intimidating language or behaviour, and also from damaging, taking or interfering with the property of others without permission.
12:20pm Wednesday 7th May 2008
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CommentPosted by: Bella, Wycombe on 1:16pm Wed 7 May 08
I am sure serving him an ASBO will make all the difference.
I am sure serving him an ASBO will make all the difference.
Posted by: FH, Amersham on 1:22pm Wed 7 May 08
[quote]Under the terms of his ASBO, Crawford is prohibited from driving or riding any motorised vehicle in any public place without the permission of the owner, without a license or without legal documentation for the next two years.[/quote] All those things are illegal anyway, all the time (not jsut two years) and for everyone. So why bother with the ASBO? If that's what he does, send him through the normal courts and charge him with actual crimes.
Under the terms of his ASBO, Crawford is prohibited from driving or riding any motorised vehicle in any public place without the permission of the owner, without a license or without legal documentation for the next two years.
All those things are illegal anyway, all the time (not jsut two years) and for everyone. So why bother with the ASBO? If that's what he does, send him through the normal courts and charge him with actual crimes.
Posted by: Bella, Wycombe on 1:22pm Wed 7 May 08
I am sure serving him an asbo will make all the difference
I am sure serving him an asbo will make all the difference
Posted by: FH, Amersham on 1:26pm Wed 7 May 08
[quote]Under the terms of his ASBO, Crawford is prohibited from driving or riding any motorised vehicle in any public place without the permission of the owner, without a license or without legal documentation for the next two years.[/quote] All those things are illegal anyway, all the time (not jsut two years) and for everyone. So why bother with the ASBO? If that's what he does, send him through the normal courts and charge him with actual crimes.
Under the terms of his ASBO, Crawford is prohibited from driving or riding any motorised vehicle in any public place without the permission of the owner, without a license or without legal documentation for the next two years.
All those things are illegal anyway, all the time (not jsut two years) and for everyone. So why bother with the ASBO? If that's what he does, send him through the normal courts and charge him with actual crimes.
Posted by: Nige_Wycombe, High Wycombe on 2:09pm Wed 7 May 08
What a shame the courst decided against a custodial sentence. Maybe he would have found love in prision, cheer him up a bit.
What a shame the courst decided against a custodial sentence. Maybe he would have found love in prision, cheer him up a bit.
Posted by: Nige_Wycombe, High Wycombe on 2:10pm Wed 7 May 08
What a shame the courst decided against a custodial sentence. Maybe he would have found love in prision, cheer him up a bit.
What a shame the courst decided against a custodial sentence. Maybe he would have found love in prision, cheer him up a bit.
Posted by: Elmo, High Wycombe on 2:11pm Wed 7 May 08
Not the brightest looking button on the shirt, is he. Probably just delaying the inevitable.
Not the brightest looking button on the shirt, is he. Probably just delaying the inevitable.
Posted by: LillyMoe, High Wycombe on 2:18pm Wed 7 May 08
17 years old, thats old enough to be locked up and the key thrown away ! Our courts need to get tougher on people, is it any wonder that we have a really high crime rate compared with some countries.
17 years old, thats old enough to be locked up and the key thrown away ! Our courts need to get tougher on people, is it any wonder that we have a really high crime rate compared with some countries.
Posted by: Marmite, HW on 4:54pm Wed 7 May 08
Yeah. He should be publicly hung drawn and quartered
Yeah. He should be publicly hung drawn and quartered
Posted by: mungefuddler, totteridge on 5:31pm Wed 7 May 08
two strikes an in the army you go! learn a trade,abscond five years in clink easy as that!
two strikes an in the army you go! learn a trade,abscond five years in clink easy as that!
Posted by: Bella, Wycombe on 5:37pm Wed 7 May 08
Exactly, you are all spot on. We are not tough enough and there is not enough punishment. I especially think sending them to the army is a great idea!
Exactly, you are all spot on. We are not tough enough and there is not enough punishment. I especially think sending them to the army is a great idea!
Posted by: yabbadabbadoo, wooburn green on 8:00pm Wed 7 May 08
no he's not old enough to take adult punishment cos he's just a little boy-might think he's a big man but alas he's just a sad, immature little boy.
to55er
no he's not old enough to take adult punishment cos he's just a little boy-might think he's a big man but alas he's just a sad, immature little boy.
to55er
Posted by: Carlton De Souza, Bowerdean area on 9:46pm Wed 7 May 08
it's funny that no one as said anything about his parents, mind you bourne end's a dump anyway so who cares.
it's funny that no one as said anything about his parents, mind you bourne end's a dump anyway so who cares.
Posted by: woooooopy, wycombe on 9:51pm Wed 7 May 08
I bet his parents are proud of their little darling ...not! They are probably just as bad as him and have no idea about bringing up a child properly.
I bet his parents are proud of their little darling ...not! They are probably just as bad as him and have no idea about bringing up a child properly.
Posted by: smokey, high wycombe on 9:54pm Wed 7 May 08
well he thinks he is tough and strong and stuff.
Bless.....
I actually feel sorry for him and his ilk if that is all they can do with their lives, What a waste.
well he thinks he is tough and strong and stuff.
Bless.....
I actually feel sorry for him and his ilk if that is all they can do with their lives, What a waste.
Posted by: Anto, bourne end on 9:55pm Wed 7 May 08
[bold]bold[/bold] oh my god my parents have done everything they can to help me! its funny how people always blame the parents isn't it! u d**k head
oh my god my parents have done everything they can to help me! its funny how people always blame the parents isn't it! u d**k head
Posted by: spotty, Holmer Green on 10:23pm Wed 7 May 08
He has no respect for his parents or anyone - so society should give him no respect - he's just a little boy playing little boy games. He needs to grow up and learn how the big boys play! Oh, no the big boys would just think he is a little prat.
He has no respect for his parents or anyone - so society should give him no respect - he's just a little boy playing little boy games. He needs to grow up and learn how the big boys play! Oh, no the big boys would just think he is a little prat.
Posted by: Dad, Bourne End On Thames, Bucks. on 10:38pm Wed 7 May 08
Anthony went from being a well behaved boy to a badly behaved teen in less than 12 months. We have tried everything & taken the advice of the police, Social services and the youth offending service. We are very open to any realistic suggestions & comments as to how we can get him to behave better but no matter what we have tried he continues to behave in an unacceptable way. He also refuses to join the Armed forces (bella). He's not the only boy in Bourne end who behaves like this and although that doesn't excuse him I know I am not the only parent who is at a loss to solve these behaviour problems. If any one can tell me why kids seem to think that disrespect for parents, elders, police & teachers is acceptable in this day and age when it was so thoroughly unacceptable when I was a kid then I would very much like to know the answer?
Anthony went from being a well behaved boy to a badly behaved teen in less than 12 months. We have tried everything & taken the advice of the police, Social services and the youth offending service. We are very open to any realistic suggestions & comments as to how we can get him to behave better but no matter what we have tried he continues to behave in an unacceptable way. He also refuses to join the Armed forces (bella). He's not the only boy in Bourne end who behaves like this and although that doesn't excuse him I know I am not the only parent who is at a loss to solve these behaviour problems. If any one can tell me why kids seem to think that disrespect for parents, elders, police & teachers is acceptable in this day and age when it was so thoroughly unacceptable when I was a kid then I would very much like to know the answer?
Posted by: HWMAN, High Wycombe on 5:38am Thu 8 May 08
One or two people who have made comments about the court system we have in this country, should take the time to visit a court in action. It is not down to the Magisrate to just dish out what they want, God we'd still have hanging if that was the case. As parents no-one has the secret of how to being a child up. If the Dad of bourne end is who it appears to be. He is very open and honest. It appears he & his wife, were proactive in getting help. I am sure a great deal more was said in court, than reported. Does drug abuse come into this anywhere? I hope this lad, takes this action as it was surely mean't. As a warning, he is on his way to jail. If he does not change his ways.
One or two people who have made comments about the court system we have in this country, should take the time to visit a court in action. It is not down to the Magisrate to just dish out what they want, God we'd still have hanging if that was the case. As parents no-one has the secret of how to being a child up. If the Dad of bourne end is who it appears to be. He is very open and honest. It appears he & his wife, were proactive in getting help. I am sure a great deal more was said in court, than reported. Does drug abuse come into this anywhere? I hope this lad, takes this action as it was surely mean't. As a warning, he is on his way to jail. If he does not change his ways.
Posted by: Steve, Totteridge Hill on 8:15am Thu 8 May 08
Named & shamed!
& a photo to boot!
Well done BFP for doing this, now how about some of the rest of them? I'm sure "Dad, Bourne End On Thames" can point them out...
Named & shamed!
& a photo to boot!
Well done BFP for doing this, now how about some of the rest of them? I'm sure "Dad, Bourne End On Thames" can point them out...
Posted by: smokey, high wycombe on 9:47am Thu 8 May 08
I think the word "no" is not used enough. I think that threats need to be made and carried out. I think that children from a very very young age should be taught to respect adults. Remove TV, DVD's, computers etc from young children's bedrooms. You are killing them with kindness. Above all, teach them that respect has to be earned and they have no rights - just priviledges ( when i say rights I obviously do not mean the basic human rights of foos, sleep roof over head etc.)
I mean the automatic assumption that interrupting conversations is right, that just because their friends have all the latest stuff doesn't mean that they can. That they do not have the right to talk to you like a piece of dirt. I also find that teens like boundaries -it gives them somthing to moan about. Above all life experience counts and at the end of the day, young people need to realise that.
BTW I do have an 18 year old and a 21 year old so I am speakng from experience.
I think the word "no" is not used enough. I think that threats need to be made and carried out. I think that children from a very very young age should be taught to respect adults. Remove TV, DVD's, computers etc from young children's bedrooms. You are killing them with kindness. Above all, teach them that respect has to be earned and they have no rights - just priviledges ( when i say rights I obviously do not mean the basic human rights of foos, sleep roof over head etc.)
I mean the automatic assumption that interrupting conversations is right, that just because their friends have all the latest stuff doesn't mean that they can. That they do not have the right to talk to you like a piece of dirt. I also find that teens like boundaries -it gives them somthing to moan about. Above all life experience counts and at the end of the day, young people need to realise that.
BTW I do have an 18 year old and a 21 year old so I am speakng from experience.
Posted by: Steve, Totteridge Hill on 12:31pm Thu 8 May 08
[quote][bold]smokey[/bold] wrote:
I think the word "no" is not used enough. I think that threats need to be made and carried out. I think that children from a very very young age should be taught to respect adults. Remove TV, DVD's, computers etc from young children's bedrooms. You are killing them with kindness. Above all, teach them that respect has to be earned and they have no rights - just priviledges ( when i say rights I obviously do not mean the basic human rights of foos, sleep roof over head etc.) I mean the automatic assumption that interrupting conversations is right, that just because their friends have all the latest stuff doesn't mean that they can. That they do not have the right to talk to you like a piece of dirt. I also find that teens like boundaries -it gives them somthing to moan about. Above all life experience counts and at the end of the day, young people need to realise that. BTW I do have an 18 year old and a 21 year old so I am speakng from experience.[/quote] I like your style...but missed something?
Are you saying you deprived your kids of these things or you have problems because you didn't?
I've a 13 year old that has to ask permission to watch TV, play on pc, watch dvd etc. Her friends think she's hard done by...I know she's better behaved because of it. AND she still loves us...
The first word she learnt was NO, and we don't get any chat back if I say because I said so when she is refused something. Cruel aren't we...
smokey wrote:
I think the word "no" is not used enough. I think that threats need to be made and carried out. I think that children from a very very young age should be taught to respect adults. Remove TV, DVD's, computers etc from young children's bedrooms. You are killing them with kindness. Above all, teach them that respect has to be earned and they have no rights - just priviledges ( when i say rights I obviously do not mean the basic human rights of foos, sleep roof over head etc.) I mean the automatic assumption that interrupting conversations is right, that just because their friends have all the latest stuff doesn't mean that they can. That they do not have the right to talk to you like a piece of dirt. I also find that teens like boundaries -it gives them somthing to moan about. Above all life experience counts and at the end of the day, young people need to realise that. BTW I do have an 18 year old and a 21 year old so I am speakng from experience.
I like your style...but missed something?
Are you saying you deprived your kids of these things or you have problems because you didn't?
I've a 13 year old that has to ask permission to watch TV, play on pc, watch dvd etc. Her friends think she's hard done by...I know she's better behaved because of it. AND she still loves us...
The first word she learnt was NO, and we don't get any chat back if I say because I said so when she is refused something. Cruel aren't we...
Posted by: smokey, high wycombe on 2:38pm Thu 8 May 08
[quote][bold]Steve[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]smokey[/bold] wrote: I think the word "no" is not used enough. I think that threats need to be made and carried out. I think that children from a very very young age should be taught to respect adults. Remove TV, DVD's, computers etc from young children's bedrooms. You are killing them with kindness. Above all, teach them that respect has to be earned and they have no rights - just priviledges ( when i say rights I obviously do not mean the basic human rights of foos, sleep roof over head etc.) I mean the automatic assumption that interrupting conversations is right, that just because their friends have all the latest stuff doesn't mean that they can. That they do not have the right to talk to you like a piece of dirt. I also find that teens like boundaries -it gives them somthing to moan about. Above all life experience counts and at the end of the day, young people need to realise that. BTW I do have an 18 year old and a 21 year old so I am speakng from experience.[/quote] I like your style...but missed something? Are you saying you deprived your kids of these things or you have problems because you didn't? I've a 13 year old that has to ask permission to watch TV, play on pc, watch dvd etc. Her friends think she's hard done by...I know she's better behaved because of it. AND she still loves us... The first word she learnt was NO, and we don't get any chat back if I say because I said so when she is refused something. Cruel aren't we...[/quote] oh - sorry!
I am like you - my girls always asked permission before using DVDs etc. Actually they still ask if they can use the phone. And they are and have been lovely funny confident young people who love and respect us and who we in turn love and respect.
You are right Steve - the word NO is not used enough. And also the phrase " because I said so". No need for explanation - "do as I say, not as I do!"
We are wicked parents are we not?
Steve wrote:
smokey wrote: I think the word "no" is not used enough. I think that threats need to be made and carried out. I think that children from a very very young age should be taught to respect adults. Remove TV, DVD's, computers etc from young children's bedrooms. You are killing them with kindness. Above all, teach them that respect has to be earned and they have no rights - just priviledges ( when i say rights I obviously do not mean the basic human rights of foos, sleep roof over head etc.) I mean the automatic assumption that interrupting conversations is right, that just because their friends have all the latest stuff doesn't mean that they can. That they do not have the right to talk to you like a piece of dirt. I also find that teens like boundaries -it gives them somthing to moan about. Above all life experience counts and at the end of the day, young people need to realise that. BTW I do have an 18 year old and a 21 year old so I am speakng from experience.
I like your style...but missed something? Are you saying you deprived your kids of these things or you have problems because you didn't? I've a 13 year old that has to ask permission to watch TV, play on pc, watch dvd etc. Her friends think she's hard done by...I know she's better behaved because of it. AND she still loves us... The first word she learnt was NO, and we don't get any chat back if I say because I said so when she is refused something. Cruel aren't we...
oh - sorry!
I am like you - my girls always asked permission before using DVDs etc. Actually they still ask if they can use the phone. And they are and have been lovely funny confident young people who love and respect us and who we in turn love and respect.
You are right Steve - the word NO is not used enough. And also the phrase " because I said so". No need for explanation - "do as I say, not as I do!"
We are wicked parents are we not?
Posted by: woooooopy, wycombe on 7:17pm Thu 8 May 08
What a pity something like 'bad lads army' wasn't available and compulsory for boys like Anthony. Looks like his parents would support him going into this, and if you ever watched the TV programme, some of the boys started of as cocky little sh**s but ended up as decent young lads.
With army personnel shouting in their faces, and not putting up with their backchat, soon sorted them out, and it was fun to watch them squirming, and not looking like the big boys they thought they were.
What a pity something like 'bad lads army' wasn't available and compulsory for boys like Anthony. Looks like his parents would support him going into this, and if you ever watched the TV programme, some of the boys started of as cocky little sh**s but ended up as decent young lads.
With army personnel shouting in their faces, and not putting up with their backchat, soon sorted them out, and it was fun to watch them squirming, and not looking like the big boys they thought they were.
Posted by: Mario, Bucks on 11:22am Sat 10 May 08
Did you know a couple of police forces in England an Wales have successfully prosecuted parents under the 1997 Protection from Harrasment Act?
On one occasion, a child made a complaint to the police about mental abuse (because the parents had withdrawn his computer and tv).
On another occasion a teacher made a complaint to the police about economic abuse (as the parents had withdrawn a child's pocket money facility).
Another mother and father have also been successfully prosecuted for false imprisonment for locking their child in the bedroom.
Parenting is now largely controlled by the State, whether you like it or not.
If someone makes a complaint about your parenting decisions it becomes a completely different ball game!
Did you know a couple of police forces in England an Wales have successfully prosecuted parents under the 1997 Protection from Harrasment Act?
On one occasion, a child made a complaint to the police about mental abuse (because the parents had withdrawn his computer and tv).
On another occasion a teacher made a complaint to the police about economic abuse (as the parents had withdrawn a child's pocket money facility).
Another mother and father have also been successfully prosecuted for false imprisonment for locking their child in the bedroom.
Parenting is now largely controlled by the State, whether you like it or not.
If someone makes a complaint about your parenting decisions it becomes a completely different ball game!
Posted by: Steve, Totteridge Hill on 9:11am Sun 11 May 08
[quote][bold]Mario[/bold] wrote:
Did you know a couple of police forces in England an Wales have successfully prosecuted parents under the 1997 Protection from Harrasment Act? On one occasion, a child made a complaint to the police about mental abuse (because the parents had withdrawn his computer and tv). On another occasion a teacher made a complaint to the police about economic abuse (as the parents had withdrawn a child's pocket money facility). Another mother and father have also been successfully prosecuted for false imprisonment for locking their child in the bedroom. Parenting is now largely controlled by the State, whether you like it or not. If someone makes a complaint about your parenting decisions it becomes a completely different ball game![/quote] Proof that the state is mad!
Mario wrote:
Did you know a couple of police forces in England an Wales have successfully prosecuted parents under the 1997 Protection from Harrasment Act? On one occasion, a child made a complaint to the police about mental abuse (because the parents had withdrawn his computer and tv). On another occasion a teacher made a complaint to the police about economic abuse (as the parents had withdrawn a child's pocket money facility). Another mother and father have also been successfully prosecuted for false imprisonment for locking their child in the bedroom. Parenting is now largely controlled by the State, whether you like it or not. If someone makes a complaint about your parenting decisions it becomes a completely different ball game!
Proof that the state is mad!
Posted by: Elmo, High Wycombe on 9:46am today
All I'm saying is, kid looks a bit t'ick, innit!
All I'm saying is, kid looks a bit t'ick, innit!
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